Ideas for change vote

So lets vote on this, type the number of the article then yes or no on what you think.

1. Shipline for legacy: Borderworlds series (sabres fallcattas ect this does not include the gunboat), Civilian ships, open market ships (havoc mk II and raven's talon as examples if the tag says its available to anyone), zoner ships (not the whale and up they through shitfits over them). I want to try to make a deal with the molly republic for barghests and maybe grehounds.

2. Shipline for ltc: gull, perechon, pirate transport, pirate train, slave/prison liners, firefly, border worlds transport and the train series. You wouldnt believe the flak we were getting for some of the ltc ships such as the shire.

3. Ranks, I propose two starter ranks and a leader rank. People start off with a title like this Legacy.name[LL] (land lubber) for just beginning once they have proven themselves a bit more use [sl] to say they have their space legs but need just a bit more learning. The mini leaders of legacy would be [hl] for hunter leader and ltc is [cl] convoy leader, slayor could have a title of his choosing.

4. weapon usage.We are truly stuck on this one but I am working out an official deal with cartel to get outcast guns. For now until the deal is finalized zoner junker and civillian ones... but if we get this deal we get one of the best lvl 9s out there (krakens and wyverns) and the incredible inferno pulse cannon for our bombers.

5. No Oorp in system and general, if your in a group with cartel or vr (them especially) no oorp until they do. this also means no abreviations (m8 and u and other such) or smileys. For the love of god the morons here wet themselves with rage when they see smileys

6. piracy needs two things. One be more focused, the willy nilly pirate everything that moves specially in new york, has to stop its making us way more enemies then friends. We need to take a page from the opg on how they pirate, because they are doing it right and official factions are bowing to any sort of pressure from them (the zoners do whatever they say and the junkers got mad at them and when they threatened them the congress bowed and asked for forgiveness).

Secondly I would have it no person will ever pirate unless they have a transport ship from ltc there waiting to take any goods if they dont comply. Most of the time you wouldnt ask for money but cargo. This seems to be doing wonders for opg.


7. using pirate id for legacy instead of plain junker id. ltc would stay the same. We need to do this plain and simple. People are saying "oh your hiding behind the junker tag" and using it against us. Lets give them nothing to use as ammo.






This is what I feel legacy cant survive unless it does. Because right now even our allies make fun of us, and what is that saying? I do believe unless we reform legacy a bit it will not survive.

Greetings gal... I agree with all the above and i feel every one eles will...
Lets get the show on the road now .Before this post a just had masters in RP i coulden't have done that 3 weeks ago.
Even the guys who I was Rping' with said wow where did that come from...Im only speaking for LTC as I think I'm warmed more to that char.....You guys sort the legacy and I'll sort the LTC i got 400 mill again and i dont mind spending every penny on the Crew.....
The hessian ship you sold me Gal im gonna put a story up saying ive bought it and its for no other porpose than a recruitment ship...I will also mention it was sold to me as the owner couldent afford to repair it-with half the interia ripped out it was converted into LTC.Recruitment Service, and will be parked up at allentown on a full time basis..
desks and shelves have been fitted to where the crew was ,you get my drift if you can type a better one out post it here and i will put it on discogc....
regards stellaye/inspace

Very very good idea inspace!

if anyone has any objections ill leave this up for the next several days. If no one objects I will begin moving forward with some political pushes.

Sry about this post Iwas steaming ,had a mega drink with some friends...

No objections from me.

We need to come away from hiding behind the Junker ID, and leave nothing for people to complain about except having been pirated, which is what we are there to do.

The ranks and way of speaking are also very good points, things we need to work on. However rather than simpy talking with yarrs and avasts, as fun as it is , this is our opportunity to make ourselves stand out from the crowd. I have already seen countless players talking like that, we can improve on it, better it with our own thing. Things like that are the things that are going to contibute to the road to becoming a real faction, with respect, on this server.

We have to think hard about where we are going to pirate as well, it has to be a well trodden path to be beneficial to us, but also somewhere that allows us to be discreet and quick about it.

Hope what what I have added is of some use.

Seems so far we are all in agreement. What I will be doing now is posting up telling the changes we are making, and apologizing for past behavior (i know i know but its a must). See even our allies thought badly of us and laughed at us. I was talking with a few of them today and one said this "man first time I saw a legacy they where in a moljinir with some random weapons that didnt even fit. I kind was just in shock". From here we need to only use green but see if we can unlock some white factional stuff through diplomacy (krakens, wyverns, infernos, greyhounds and barghests).

Lets try to think up good ideas for ranks that are easy to identify. Also any legacy characters pick up a pirate id please and make your ships follow this as much as possible, thanks a ton!

Yes sounds good to m8....can anyone tell me where the pirate tag is....
Also i just looked at your post on the forum-nice going mate the ball is now rolling....

Tell me what you think, im gonna have to make a lot of stuff to get this clan official if any of you want to add something just let me know

Ranks

- Trierarch
Initiates into Legacy are referred to as Trierarch, the title of officers who command a space ship. Trierarchs thus have to be men of considerable means, since the expenses incurred could run as high as the costs of a battleship. Their primary duties include transporting commodities, scouting and scavenging debris fields or enemy territory providing intelligence for Legacy.
Players with the rank Trierarch use these kinds of ships: Freighter, Transport and low level ships.

-Lochagos
Lochagos is referred to as Captain. The Lochagos takes command a small wing of light fighters, heavy fighters, VHF and SHF into battle to protect allies or harm non-allied fighter ships ranging from LF to SHF, transports ships to attaining cargo shipments and even smaller capital ships.
Players with the rank Lochagos use these kinds of ships: Light fighter, Heavy fighter, Very heavy fighter, Super Heavy fighter.

- Syntagmatarchis
It is translated as "leader of a regiment (syntagma)", Colonel.
Above Trierarch and Lochagos, the Syntagmatarchis will command a Small wing of bombers. Primary duties include defense of Legacy interest, bombarding non-allied enemy capital ships and also escorting during important high security salvage operations where house corporations capital ships might try to intervene.
Players with the rank Lochagos use these kinds of ships: Bomber (X 2T), Gunships.

- Navarch
Veterans of the Legacy are referred to as Navarch (meaning "leader of the ships” Admiral), Admiral fleet commanders are tasked to lead warships such as gunboats, cruisers and destroyers with deadly accurate assaults against non-allied enemy structures, capital ships, and defending key positions for Legacy.
Players with the rank Lochagos use these kinds of ships: Gunboat, Cruiser/Destroyer, Light Carrier

- Strategos
The leaders of the Legacy are referred to as Strategos, it is the highest officer rank, Strategos literally meaning "army leader".The strategoi are responsible for calling up citizens and Initiates for military service, and for organizing the maintenance and command of ships in national and international space. When a legal case rises from any of matter, such as a prosecution for desertion or evasion of service, or a dispute over the duty to perform, the strategoi are the magistrates responsible for bringing the case to court and presiding over the trial. The position of Strategos is charged with overall command of solar system defense and responsible for the International Fleet of space warships. These Strategos are also politicians as well as generals who lead other Legacy into battle, and organize raiding parties or escort squadrons.
Players with the rank of Strategos use these kinds of ships: Carrier and Battleship.

- Imperator
The Leader of Legacy is the Imperator (“commander” General), and there can be only one Imperator. Legacy is governed with the help of a ruling body of Srategos and Navarch. Generals have supreme command over Legacy humanity's space fleets.


This is slayers original post...
Are we working off this.....Maybe shorten them down and add into tag.... not sure if some rper's will recognize this ranking system or maybe we should keep it as simple as Srg.Cpt.Lubb.

First off slayors ranks are very very cool and the greek fits in very well with the theme of legacy. Problem is they are all to cool for the lower rank. Other issue is if we implement ranks people are going to be curious and ask about it. If we use the latter half of slayor ranks your all going to have to know what they mean and how to spell them.

Other thing that kinda worries about them is they are greek/roman and greek/roman=corsairs. Im all for using the latter half of them though but we need to debate it.

Also we have to remember if these are added to tags ,to keep it simple its already a nightmare inviting people when over 5 people are on all at once.

Since we all talked about it ingame and this seems to be the best way to go here is what we will do

lane hacker iff/id (/droprep if you have junkers as your iff) mactan base in magellan is where you can do missions

New rp ill talk more about ranks will be corparation based like ceo manager ect

ltc stays the same

ships

vhf-raven's talon sabre bayonet (virage might be alright but try to go with those)
bomber- broadsword preferably but barghest would be ok
guns-use lane hacker

Ok i have the rp story almost done and it will go up later today when I have time.

Secondly dont use any outcast guns whatsoever. Those buggers are pitching a fit right now.

Thirdly once we get set up I want out of leading legacy someone else can take it up but im just going to get the ball rolling.

Well you done good gal.
The thing we are lacking is feedback and its not helping with the boss being away...
I would't put anything on there at this point untill we are decided with a bit more activivty on here..
Some of the old posts need taking off (updated)and we cant do that till slayor comes back.
and we need to dicide clearly what we are going to do.
As I said in the begining We should Work on LTC and leave off Legacy chars untill it is founded.
Then when we get a trust worthy convoy of traders.
The forum might start moving again..